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[Matt]

nabbers, on 02 January 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

Since this building falls within the conservation area MAP Then why has it been allowed to be developed into such an eye sore?

Do the local council turn a blind eye to the existence of the conservation area? Only everywhere I look I see new UPVC windows being fitted to Victorian and Georgian period buildings and somehow I can't believe that every single one has permission from the council and if they have, whats the point of having a conservation area?

The Council only knows about a development if told.

I will pass on a request for enforcement if people give me the details - and if possible a before/after photo.

I've asked the Council to enforce three changes in the last month - all businesses, two of them take-aways and the third is the co-op.

So far, every time I have asked the Council has investigated and issued an enforcement notice. These generally allow 30 days for rectification or submission of a planning application. The planning (and planning enforcement) process is then followed as necessary.

Please let me know of any breaches and I will check them out and if justified report them.

Matt

[nabbers]

Matt, on 09 January 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

The Council only knows about a development if told.

I will pass on a request for enforcement if people give me the details - and if possible a before/after photo.

I've asked the Council to enforce three changes in the last month - all businesses, two of them take-aways and the third is the co-op.

So far, every time I have asked the Council has investigated and issued an enforcement notice. These generally allow 30 days for rectification or submission of a planning application. The planning (and planning enforcement) process is then followed as necessary.

Please let me know of any breaches and I will check them out and if justified report them.

Matt

Anyone can report them, but I have good reason to believe that at worst, the council will issue them with a certificate of lawfulness. So for instance an end terrace on West terrace had decent painted wooden Double glazed windows and front door ripped out and gleaming white UPVC windows and door fitted in their place. Meanwhile someone in the houses which are listed at the other end of Burley has to jump through hoops to change anything about their buildings appearance. The Listed Building officer has all seeing eyes!

Before I turn quisling; taking the example of that terrace house, what happens if I provide photos and a complaint? Would the company that fitted them get fined? Would the windows be removed and replace with wooden ones? No, the council will send them a form to fill in for a 'certificate of lawfulness', fill it in, send it back with a cheque, hey presto the windows stay and the integrity of the conservation area remains violated.

[Grumpy]

nabbers, on 09 January 2011 - 02:19 PM, said:

Side ways as in less Park and pavement or less car parking? Parking is already a problem on Grange Rd. Any new commercial venture in Burley needs to be matched by an appropriate number of off road parking spaces and losing more green space or existing parking is not on. Time spent on this idea is time wasted.

Well I quite like Grange Rd. All these things are a matter of opinion but it has a pleasant feel about it. The park, bowling green and cricket field give a pleasant villagey ambience. The library, however poor its range of books, isn't really an eyesore. And the general appearance hasn't been spoilt by lots of speed bumps, yellow lines, traffic signs etc. Perhaps Council members and officers never go that way

So I suppose that having done their best to turn Station road/Moor Lane into something like an inner city council housing estate, despite its conservation status, "they" would inevitably turn their attention to Grange Rd.

Let's have a few clear statements. Like there will be no attempts to introduce retailing onto Grange Rd (or do anything else to mess it up).

[catbazza]

I have a confession to make sorry to say, I live in an house in Burley which has those horrible shiny white PVC windows & doors throughout, I had wooden double glazed windows & doors previously but had them ripped out in favour of the PVC type, why you may ask?, the simple answer is whereas the old ones needed contiual maintainance ie- painting & changing the sealed 6mm glass units because of damp penetration the modern PVC are absolutely non maintainance & having a lot bigger cavity the house is much more warmer.

To answer partially the second part of your post, for a period of time I was trained as as a double glazing salesman & sold/supplied many many houses with new glazing & although well versed in glazing we knew nothing at all about protected & listed buildings & relied on the householder to inform us as such, but to be honest we were told not to mention the subject in our sales patter. But to add to that if they did mention that the house was listed we did tell them that they should apply for planning permission which was nearly always granted.

So I do not blame anybody who has PVC replacement doors & windows if they wish to have them.

[Harveybos]

If you want an example of the procedures that Bradford council go through in enforcing conservation area controls, there's a case going through at the moment, not a million miles away from the Co-op...
http://www.planning4...l=L9JZETDH0GF00

[nabbers]

catbazza, on 10 January 2011 - 09:57 AM, said:

I was trained as as a double glazing salesman

How long does that average UPVC window last? 20 years. How long does a timber window last? I could show you some that are 200 years old and if they rot, they can be repaired.

The same U Values can be achieved with Timber windows as those as UPVC.

UPVC is not maintenance free, they suffer from wear and tear and soon get discoloured.

But people love em, so there will always be a market for them. They are not environmentally friendly though.

But if the rules aay replace in timber, then that's what you should do, to keep our village looking cottagey and quaint!

Assuming you don't live in a conservation area!


Yep I wondered about the new windows at the ranch! The council seem harder on businesses than they are on householders, again because if they enforce one, they have to enforce them all and it doesn't win them many friends.

Bet the outcome is a Certificate of Lawfulness!

[catbazza]

I have been told that one of the Co-op shop assistants has been telling people that they have placed planning permission before Bradford Met for the library but hasn't gone through yet, our friend "Seb" from upriver warned us a long while ago to keep an eye out on the library.

[catbazza]

In the daily newspapers today I see that the Co-op are selling the insurance section of the company to concentrate on the Co-op store sector of their buisness so now all we can hope for is that the Burley store will get some of that concentration ASAP.

[Super_man]

Get rid of Co Op and get a morrisons local or tesco express!!!

[blunt pencil]

I'd vote for a Morrisons

[Steve B]

As long as it's not like the new Morrisons Local in Ilkley. I'm sure the store itself is fine, but the location and related traffic chaos (i.e. parking, lack thereof), is just as bad as anything Burley can offer!

[blunt pencil]

It makes you wonder why those approving the application in the council did not assess the traffic impact to the local community.

Or perhaps they were to busy assessinmg how to spend the extra money. Its amazing what blinkered glasses can do.

Lets hope the same is not true for the CO-OP, when they leave their current ghetto to build a new one where the library is.

Of all the stores, i find [edited]

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[Sebastian-Smythe]

blunt pencil, on 19 July 2011 - 08:57 AM, said:

It makes you wonder why those approving the application in the council did not assess the traffic impact to the local community.

Or perhaps they were to busy assessinmg how to spend the extra money. Its amazing what blinkered glasses can do.

Lets hope the same is not true for the CO-OP, when they leave their current ghetto to build a new one where the library is.

Of all the stores, i find this one an insult when it tries to say its a community store

Just slightly off post, mention is made of the Morrisons in Ilkley and it being in the wrong place for some. When I took up residence in the town nearly forty years ago there was at the west end of town on Skipton road a Post Office, General Store, Newsagents and Wine Shop, one hairdresser, a Green Grocer and Game Shop, a Book Shop, and a few more besides. Now there is a small Morrisons for the folk who live that end of town. It is within walking distance of many people. There are a number of flats for elderly folk who now can pop across the road instead of hiking into town. Not everyone has a car in Ilkley.

[wharfedalegas]

Super_man, on 18 July 2011 - 11:12 AM, said:

Get rid of Co Op and get a morrisons local or tesco express!!!

What about the employees of the Co op ?

Is it their fault that head office has let them down? A fault which they are now trying to resolve to the benefit of all Burley residents.

I think people on this site should consider some of the hard working employees of the local Co op when they are [edited] their user names on this forum.

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[Steve B]

Hiding behind user names, Mr (or Mrs) Gas? Surely not....

Anyway, back to topic. (Sorry).

[Sebastian-Smythe]

Steve B, on 26 July 2011 - 08:33 PM, said:

Hiding behind user names, Mr (or Mrs) Gas? Surely not....

Anyway, back to topic. (Sorry).

Ooops!

[wharfedalegas]

Sebastian-Smythe, on 26 July 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

Ooops!

The wharfedalegas thing is just a old title I used on a football forum .The user name not a very good disguise if you know any thing about football

If you want to talk to me , then just email me direct .

[Sebastian-Smythe]

wharfedalegas, on 26 July 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:

The wharfedalegas thing is just a old title I used on a football forum .The user name not a very good disguise if you know any thing about football

If you want to talk to me , then just email me direct .

The only things I know about football are the old leather balls knocked you senseless when wet.
And players are paid too much these days.
Perhaps if they used the old style balls more sense could be made out of the game.

[Maniac Pony]

[edited] I complained to the council environmental heath about the dangerous state of their CCTV by the bread section, as it took them so long to do anything about it. Unfortunatly the woman from environmental health didn't get passed on the correct message and thought my only concern was for the loose wires, rather than the real problem which was the (probably) live mains cable with the wires taped together with insulation tape.  coop.jpg   80.47K   7 downloads Still, at least they got it sorted quickly after that phone call. Haven't bothered replaicng all the tiles though. [edited] they can even run to a few new ceiling and floor tiles.

Is it any wonder they get noise complaints above when you can look through the holes in the false ceiling straight through a hole in the floor into the rooms above!

[peekaboo]

[/quote]
once again i understand that problem was reported to headoffice along with everything that is wrong with the store.Well before you rang with your complaint!! again the manager did what she could. I also know the manager threw all the food away and followed all the procedures when the airconditioning broke. I also know that the coop recycle all there own rubbish. Anyone else want to ask anything? At least you will know the reality and not pure rubbish. You thing staff and manager just look at the damage and say whoooooooops! there gos another tile!!!ohhhh dear!! They are part of the community. Do you know staff deliver goods to customers houses. Pensioners, people who are sick and cannot get out.If thats not community spirit in such bad working conditions, tell me what is?