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#41 wharfedalegas

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 01:48 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on 22 August 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

At te end of the day where would you go on a Sunday after 1 o clock for bare essentials or on Christmas eve/Boxing day/new year etc etc.

You could always go to Tesco Express in Ben Rydding.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 02:34 PM

View Postgreenhowleadman, on 21 August 2011 - 09:26 PM, said:

Of course the Co-op actually had purpose built premises in the village,
but gave them up some years ago!

So it must be said
they are part of our history.

But Morrisons and Tesco
and Sainsburys and Waitrose
are part of a present day reality
because the Co-0p
has failed over the last 10 years
to provide a decent service.

Why we should want to invest
any of Burley's future
in a company that has this far
treated staff
and customers
and neighbours
with such disdain
is beyond me.

The loyalty shown here
for this company
would be touching
if it was not for the fact
that it appears to be from employees
or relatives of
so desperate to escape from
their present working conditions.
Which are dire.

Do
we
have
to
have
this
silly
layout.
Where
does
it
stop?

Really its very awkward to read and a conventional layout which 99% of people are comfortable with would save much scrolling.
layout

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 09:38 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on 22 August 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

The only reason I brought up that link is because of what you said about Tesco, Waitrose etc. I also shop at local facilities but for things they do not supply the Co-Op comes in handy.At te end of the day where would you go on a Sunday after 1 o clock for bare essentials or on Christmas eve/Boxing day/new year etc etc.

True on both points. I suppose being of the generation who went through rationing I always keep well stocked up on what you call the bare essentials. Much to the amusement of younger folk. But when you've been in the position of not knowing if such would be available you take avoiding action. Starting to sound like Mary Hopkins now.......
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 06:57 AM

View Postspyglass, on 22 August 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

Do
we
have
to
have
this
silly
layout.
Where
does
it
stop?

Really its very awkward to read and a conventional layout which 99% of people are comfortable with would save much scrolling.
layout

Each to his own.
®evolution
is the format
for the future
making documents
easier to read
where otherwise
important words
and therefore meanings
may be lost.

Edited by greenhowleadman, 23 August 2011 - 07:00 AM.


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Posted 23 August 2011 - 09:17 AM

View Postgreenhowleadman, on 23 August 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

Each to his own.
®evolution
is the format
for the future
making documents
easier to read
where otherwise
important words
and therefore meanings
may be lost.

I agree with spyglass & when I open a page on a topic I think to myself aw! not another one of these to to scroll through, it makes boring reading & it also takes up a lot of page space & if everybody posted like that you would literaly 100's of pages on a topic instead of a few.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 11:05 AM

Someday they will.
®evolution!!!
wider posts
like yours are very hard
to read on my device
which measure 47 x 98x 22mm
and has a screen size
a third of that.
Off topic posts are
even
more of an annoyance...
practice what you preach!!!

...and so back on topic.

If the library disappears
maybe more of us
will only have internet access
from our phones.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 01:35 PM

View Postgreenhowleadman, on 23 August 2011 - 11:05 AM, said:

Someday they will.
®evolution!!!
wider posts
like yours are very hard
to read on my device
which measure 47 x 98x 22mm
and has a screen size
a third of that.
Off topic posts are
even
more of an annoyance...
practice what you preach!!!

...and so back on topic.

If the library disappears
maybe more of us
will only have internet access
from our phones.

I'm with you on this catbazza. Not everyone can afford these new fangled 'phones' nor wan't one.
I thought they worked just as well in Landscape - has the owner not thought of turning it on it's
side - whichever I'm totally lost now whatever the topic was.
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Posted 23 August 2011 - 05:49 PM

View Postgreenhowleadman, on 23 August 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

Each to his own.
®evolution
is the format
for the future
making documents
easier to read
where otherwise
important words
and therefore meanings
may be lost.


well I for one am entirely capable of reading more than 3 words on a line without missing "important words" - hopefully so too are the majority of users of this site
could we please dump this silly affectation?

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 07:40 PM

Seems really silly
complaining about my
posting style.
Which is being widely adopted,
on the grounds of
taking threads into multiple pages,
when posters are off topic
and their off topic posts
are achieving the same result!

Sebastian even mimics the new style
elsewhere, flattery indeed!
in this thread
or another.

Further discussion might be better
sent via PM.

I think Winston Churchill
wrote his speeches
in this
format.

It has
gravitas.

And not everyone
can afford a PC.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:08 PM

View Postwharfedalegas, on 22 August 2011 - 01:48 PM, said:

You could always go to Tesco Express in Ben Rydding.
not if you dont have transport to get to it!!! walking sticks!! false hips!!!! ect. lucky for me im not one of them, but who knows..... what is around the corner!!! some people cannot get to the tesco at ben rydding, some cannot manage at all. the coop deliver!!! tesco do not provide this facility!so tell me please, what would happen to these people???

View PostPhilD, on 23 August 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

well I for one am entirely capable of reading more than 3 words on a line without missing "important words" - hopefully so too are the majority of users of this site
could we please dump this silly affectation?
Yes!! i also, and im sure
all the readers on
here!! but
i
thought i would
try
it to see
if it works!!!!
have you missed
any words????
hahahahahahaha!
i find it alittle funny.

Edited by peekaboo, 24 August 2011 - 09:04 PM.


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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:42 AM

View Postpeekaboo, on 24 August 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

not if you dont have transport to get to it!!! walking sticks!! false hips!!!! ect. lucky for me im not one of them, but who knows..... what is around the corner!!! some people cannot get to the tesco at ben rydding, some cannot manage at all. the coop deliver!!! tesco do not provide this facility!so tell me please, what would happen to these people???


Yes!! i also, and im sure
all the readers on
here!! but
i
thought i would
try
it to see
if it works!!!!
have you missed
any words????
hahahahahahaha!
i find it alittle funny.


Sorry , if you missed my point peekaboo, I was trying,
and obviously failed to to ironic !

Will try better next time.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:21 AM

View PostRaz, on 19 August 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

At least there seems to be more people showing up on here that are for the proposal.
The petitions, well, they do not show a real side to how people feel as they are one sided - what about all the people who are for it, why don't they all have their names scribbled down on a piece of paper so we can compare the outcome. Most people that are for the move probably wouldn't bother going to the consultation as things like that are mainly for people who disagree and oppose said plans. Again, one sided.

For it or against, we now all have the opportunity to voice our concerns.
The Special Neighbourhood Forum details have now been released - Tuesday 06 September in the Queen's Hall, with detailed plans available from 6:30pm, with the meeting starting at 7:30.
More details on the village website, HERE.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:34 PM

View PostMalcolm, on 25 August 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:

For it or against, we now all have the opportunity to voice our concerns.
The Special Neighbourhood Forum details have now been released - Tuesday 06 September in the Queen's Hall, with detailed plans available from 6:30pm, with the meeting starting at 7:30.
More details on the village website, HERE.

You put forward a very valid point when it comes to Neighbourhood Forums. It is the very people you want to be there who don't so what have you? A one sided approach which does no-one any good and sometimes everyone no good at all. So if there are folk out there reading this Forum who are for the proposal please go to the Special Forum. Your points may make all the difference.

As I don't live in the village but share concerns of many who do and don't come on this forum perhaps one of you could put some of these forward when time permits. I'm assuming if the project does go ahead library staff will need something other than steps to take boxes of books to the first floor. A lift comes to mind. A lift large enough to take more than one box might also be large enough to take a buggy, wheel chair or persons not able to take the stairs. I realise mention has been made before but it doesn't harm to bring it back into the whole picture again. Especially at the forthcoming Forum.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:58 PM

A lift has been proposed in the plans, it was originally an 8 man lift I believe but now they have altered it to be a 15 man lift, therefore big enough for wheelchairs/prams and boxes of books

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:06 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on 25 August 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

A lift has been proposed in the plans, it was originally an 8 man lift I believe but now they have altered it to be a 15 man lift, therefore big enough for wheelchairs/prams and boxes of books
It can just as easily take boxes of baked beans. So instead of 8 boxes of baked beans it can now take 15.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:55 PM

View Postweirdmusic, on 25 August 2011 - 02:06 PM, said:

It can just as easily take boxes of baked beans. So instead of 8 boxes of baked beans it can now take 15.


Plus an electric can opener & several rolls of army form blank.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:33 PM

I have just had a look at the plans and cannot find a decimate figure for how big the lift will be but it has been made a little bit larger to fit buggies and wheelchairs but my figures may not be correct. What are you getting at with these comments on beans in a lift? That the Co-Op should go upstairs? Think how much more of a struggle it would be to fit god knows how much stock in a lift and how many trips up and down it would take as opposed to unloading straight from the wagon and wheeling cages into the warehouse downstairs, which would be no more than a 2 minute job and would also save the wagons waiting around for a long period of time while the stock is unloaded?

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:52 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on 25 August 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

..................What are you getting at with these comments on beans in a lift? That the Co-Op should go upstairs? .............
Oh dear, you've clearly never been into any shop that's been above the ground floor.
How do you think businesses in places like the White Rose Centre, Meadowhall, the Trafford Centre move stock around? How is any business going into the new shopping centre in the very heart of Leeds going to manage, when goods inwards is below the level of the street?

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:05 PM

Yes I definitely have been to shopping centres and city centre stores but I also know that they have goods lifts, a lot bigger than the ones proposed for the library co-op site that can withold a lot more weight and heavier goods. So don't start patronising me in that manner. I was just pointing out that the lifts would not be suitable for goods that the Co-Op sell. This site is not for putting others down it's for putting ideas an peoples opinions forward. Enough people have been bad mouthed/patronised on here and it is beyond a joke how you feel you should be allowed to do so!

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:21 PM

View PostYorkshireman, on 25 August 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

Yes I definitely have been to shopping centres and city centre stores but I also know that they have goods lifts, a lot bigger than the ones proposed for the library co-op site that can withold a lot more weight and heavier goods. So don't start patronising me in that manner. I was just pointing out that the lifts would not be suitable for goods that the Co-Op sell. This site is not for putting others down it's for putting ideas an peoples opinions forward. Enough people have been bad mouthed/patronised on here and it is beyond a joke how you feel you should be allowed to do so!

According to Oscar Wilde "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"

Yorkshireman , just stay above the silly impractical comments made on this forum and just state the facts and information of the proposed for the Library / Co Op development.





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