HI All. Just wondered if everyone realised there was a ticket machine (Cards only) on the Burley train station platform - Leeds side.
Aparently, if you dont have a ticket you pay full fare and "may be prosecuted" for not having a valid ticket.
The train company no doubt realise that by not having cash, there is less chance of people breaking into the machine. But tough, if you dont have/ or want to use a credit card.
Why not have a proper card/ cash option.
Also, I see that northern rail are back to cancelling trains again too. Service - what service
Another lack of investment, lack of choice. And when the trains are busy, they choose NOT to check tickets (at least from leeds to guiseley anyway)
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Ticket Machine For The Train
Started by blunt pencil, Nov 28 2011 07:02 PM
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:22 AM
So you don't like the trains then??
Of course it's illegal to travel without a valid ticket, if you have avoided getting one when you could... would you try and not pay on the bus, or get on a flight without a ticket, or drive off without paying for petrol, so why not the same on the train?
Not checking tickets is an issue, but the guards seem to take the view that out of Leeds "all" passengers will have passed through the barrier, and so must have a ticket. Not quite true, of course.
Well, at least having a ticket machine is something, there are some stations in Manchester with far fewer passengers than Burley which have a staffed ticket office.
At least we get an extra morning and evening peak trains from December 12, and more seats on some other trans, too.
Like it or not, we are fortunate to have one of the best services outside of London.
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Of course it's illegal to travel without a valid ticket, if you have avoided getting one when you could... would you try and not pay on the bus, or get on a flight without a ticket, or drive off without paying for petrol, so why not the same on the train?
Not checking tickets is an issue, but the guards seem to take the view that out of Leeds "all" passengers will have passed through the barrier, and so must have a ticket. Not quite true, of course.
Well, at least having a ticket machine is something, there are some stations in Manchester with far fewer passengers than Burley which have a staffed ticket office.
At least we get an extra morning and evening peak trains from December 12, and more seats on some other trans, too.
Like it or not, we are fortunate to have one of the best services outside of London.
S
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:24 PM
I couldn't see any senior £1 return tickets using my Metro card on the machine, so I just purchased my ticket on the train. There was no problem. People paying the guard as usual.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:24 AM
Oh for pity's sake.
I do like the trains. I use them a lot. DO YOU ?
it costs £3.25 from Burley to Leeds. Less to Guiseley, or to Ilkley costs less.
My point, Steve - is that for the last 10 years I've used the train, and its much simpler to pay cash for one or two stops, rather than card. And what happens if you dont have a credit card.
And yes, I've used the bus. I can imagine the response if i pulled out a credit card.
My only point, was that we have the new ticket machine (by the way Burley used to have one) but unless you have a credit card and want to pop £3.25 on it (or £5.60 return) then you wont have a valid ticket and would be traveling without a valid ticket.
Its easier when there is NOT a ticket machine, as you cant be expected to purchase a ticket.
And with all the technology in the world, it is possible to have a machine that does both (have a look at the blank panel on the machine, where change could be issued).
I do like the trains. I use them a lot. DO YOU ?
it costs £3.25 from Burley to Leeds. Less to Guiseley, or to Ilkley costs less.
My point, Steve - is that for the last 10 years I've used the train, and its much simpler to pay cash for one or two stops, rather than card. And what happens if you dont have a credit card.
And yes, I've used the bus. I can imagine the response if i pulled out a credit card.
My only point, was that we have the new ticket machine (by the way Burley used to have one) but unless you have a credit card and want to pop £3.25 on it (or £5.60 return) then you wont have a valid ticket and would be traveling without a valid ticket.
Its easier when there is NOT a ticket machine, as you cant be expected to purchase a ticket.
And with all the technology in the world, it is possible to have a machine that does both (have a look at the blank panel on the machine, where change could be issued).
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 07:31 PM
I hadn't realised it was card only. I couldn't see the £1 senior return using my Metro card either, so just bought a ticket on line as usual. There was no problem.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:10 PM
blunt pencil, on 30 November 2011 - 09:24 AM, said:
Oh for pity's sake.
I do like the trains. I use them a lot. DO YOU ?
it costs £3.25 from Burley to Leeds. Less to Guiseley, or to Ilkley costs less.
My point, Steve - is that for the last 10 years I've used the train, and its much simpler to pay cash for one or two stops, rather than card. And what happens if you dont have a credit card.
And yes, I've used the bus. I can imagine the response if i pulled out a credit card.
My only point, was that we have the new ticket machine (by the way Burley used to have one) but unless you have a credit card and want to pop £3.25 on it (or £5.60 return) then you wont have a valid ticket and would be traveling without a valid ticket.
Its easier when there is NOT a ticket machine, as you cant be expected to purchase a ticket.
And with all the technology in the world, it is possible to have a machine that does both (have a look at the blank panel on the machine, where change could be issued).
I do like the trains. I use them a lot. DO YOU ?
it costs £3.25 from Burley to Leeds. Less to Guiseley, or to Ilkley costs less.
My point, Steve - is that for the last 10 years I've used the train, and its much simpler to pay cash for one or two stops, rather than card. And what happens if you dont have a credit card.
And yes, I've used the bus. I can imagine the response if i pulled out a credit card.
My only point, was that we have the new ticket machine (by the way Burley used to have one) but unless you have a credit card and want to pop £3.25 on it (or £5.60 return) then you wont have a valid ticket and would be traveling without a valid ticket.
Its easier when there is NOT a ticket machine, as you cant be expected to purchase a ticket.
And with all the technology in the world, it is possible to have a machine that does both (have a look at the blank panel on the machine, where change could be issued).
Fair point, I agree it's daft not to have a money taking machine, but there is a lot of daft things on the railway. All stations in Manchester that have passenger numbers more than half that of Burleys' are staffed...
and yes, I use the trains, a lot, I don't have a car and I have connections with the railways. I specifically live where I do to be within easy walk of the station.
In reply to the other post, my guess as to why there is no £1 concession ticket is that this facility ceases this weekend, so there would have been no point writing the software to enable it for just a couple of weeks.
Cheers!!
Edited by steve219, 09 December 2011 - 08:05 AM.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:34 PM
Looks like I'll be using trains even less. Credit card indeed. I don't have one and I bet there's a good few more who don't.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:11 AM
Sebastian-Smythe, on 08 December 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:
Looks like I'll be using trains even less. Credit card indeed. I don't have one and I bet there's a good few more who don't.
No problem, if you don't have a credit card you can't pay before hand, similarly, if, like me you are unable to use the machine. And this is another daft part of the railways. the conductors on some train operators, like Northern, are very relaxed about such matters and allow payment on trains without demur, they even willingly sell tickets for onward journeys, but others are very strict and take offence at the slightest perceived transgression.... at least if you can use the machine you save yourself the possibility of having to queue to buy a ticket in order to get through the barriers at Leeds.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:02 AM
Sorry Mr Banker/Rail Boss - No Deal!
Thanks for the info. I'll stick to the bus. Though looking at my travel record it was 15 years since last going to Bradford, 10 for Shipley, Much the same for Leeds by rail. There's everything I need in Ilkley and used to be Burley and if I can't get something I can do without it.
Thanks for the info. I'll stick to the bus. Though looking at my travel record it was 15 years since last going to Bradford, 10 for Shipley, Much the same for Leeds by rail. There's everything I need in Ilkley and used to be Burley and if I can't get something I can do without it.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:20 PM
Sebastian-Smythe, on 09 December 2011 - 11:02 AM, said:
Sorry Mr Banker/Rail Boss - No Deal!
There's everything I need in Ilkley and used to be Burley and if I can't get something I can do without it.
There's everything I need in Ilkley and used to be Burley and if I can't get something I can do without it.
Well said Sebastian, my feelings exactly, & there is now the most popular alternative to gei it & that's the WWW.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:27 PM
For those who use the Wharfedale line & complain of a shortage of seats, good news-:
http://www.ilkleygaz...dale_commuters/
http://www.ilkleygaz...dale_commuters/
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:33 PM
I was looking at the WY Metro website with a view to making a rail journey and noticed, much to my disappointment, that as from 2January 2012 the 50 pence charge for seniors with a senior pass is abolished and we will now have to pay half the full fare. The buses are still free.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 08:44 PM
Of course the conductors like selling tickets, especially to the business travellers going to London on the early morning trains, as they're on commission!!! 
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:30 AM
I use the train to Leeds two or three times a month. I have never used the ticket machine. None of the guards/ticket collectors have ever asked me why. Overall, I think it's an excellent service despite the recent increase in fares.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:51 PM
I have to say - I think this is a great development for the village. Personally as an irregular rail commuter to Leeds on one of the peak trains getting a ticket was a nightmare before. Either the trains are too crowded for the guard to get down - or you have to wait 20 mins at Leeds station to buy a ticket from the "interim" ticket offices.
Great result!
P.S. I may be a luddite - but even if you don't have a credit card, surely you have a debit card these days? I thought all cashpoint cards are now debit cards?
Great result!
P.S. I may be a luddite - but even if you don't have a credit card, surely you have a debit card these days? I thought all cashpoint cards are now debit cards?
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